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Rep List “Subject to Change”

So I’m all signed up to take an audition in Philadelphia next month and I got an email from the PM last week that includes this ominous line:


“The list continues to remain subject to change and we encourage you to check our website periodically for updates.”


I will be emailing them to ask what that means and why, but in the meantime:


Has anybody else seen this before? I’ve heard of lists being altered without notice—generally due to some flavor of management miscommunication or incompetence—but to state deliberately in advance that it will/may change after an initial list being publicized is…a choice…?


Is this a committee decision? A capricious music director situation? A contract issue in desperate need of revision? A sneaky way of weeding people out of the process? What’s going on here?


Everything about the audition process is challenging under the most favorable conditions. Introducing variables like…


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Is this different from the standard disclaimer included on most lists that reserves the right to ask for music not included on the list?

International Orchestra Academy

Is the Janacek Phil’s International Orchestra Academy a good experience considering it’s not paid? Has anyone been?

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stephgomez306
Oct 07

That's a great question about the usefulness of the Janacek Phil's International Orchestra Academy experience, even though it's unpaid; professional advancement frequently necessitates a purposeful time investment. My ultimate goal is to conduct a professional orchestra, which requires extensive practice, but my doctoral dissertation currently consumes every waking hour. To secure the critical time required for musical mastery, I determined that the only viable answer was to pay someone to do my dissertation.

Pet Peeve: Auditions with no audition packet, only a repertoire list

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I am really frustrated at the groups who host auditions and don't create an audition packet for all of the excerpts! I hate having to count measures, triple and quadruple check that I got everything correct, and compile my own audition packet when the group has a hired orchestra librarian. Especially in cases where the only copy of the music is a scan of a hand written part on IMSLP and the orchestra owns a clean and well published copy they could upload. I can't be the only one who shares this sentiment!

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A Librarian
Oct 23

Specifically in regards to the posting of a complete packet online: the G. Schirmer/Wise company charges per excerpt to use their materials in an audition packet. In addition, we are forbidden from posting those excerpts online. In order to avoid the confusion of posting some excerpts but not all, many librarians prefer to post nothing. So yes, the committee has a packet to look at, but for legal reasons it is unwise for that packet to float around on the internet.

G. Schirmer/Wise have a near-monopoly on the composers they control, and will absolutely retaliate if you repeatedly break the law by posting their copyrighted materials online. For the USA they control much of the music by Shostakovich, Barber, Prokofiev, Khachaturian, Florence Price, and many other 20th century American composers.

Audition announcement vs. repertoire list release

Sometimes an audition will be announced and the excerpt list is released at the same time or shortly after. Other times the rep list isn’t available for a month or even two months after the audition is announced. Is it a conscious decision by a committee to withhold the list until a certain date or does it just take a while to make sometimes? Would there be any benefit to waiting to release a rep list vs. releasing it at the same as the audition announcement?

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OutlawNoHires
Sep 04

Agree with what’s already been said. You’d be surprised how little of the way most auditions are run is by “conscious decision.” Some groups have clear guidelines for audition advertising, committee formation, repertoire list creation that are spelled out in their CBA. Others have very little of that. Even if it is spelled out, things can be delayed by library/rental part hang ups, committee dysfunction, poor leadership by personnel management, or any number of other factors.

From the outside as a candidate, sometimes it might seem like the orchestras are all colluding to try and trick you or throw curveballs at the candidates. In my experience, I’ve never seen that to be the case. Lack of planning and organization is always the explanation. The more that groups can get their processes defined in their CBAs, the better chance they have at an efficient and effective process. Easier said than done.

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